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The “Is this a bootleg?” Thread

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 17 Apr 2018 00:22

While we would like to add as many titles as possible to our database, what we do not condone is bootlegging and piracy.

We have sometime inadvertently added bootleg releases, and with the help of our teammembers and users confirmed that they were unauthorized and subsequently removed.

If you see a title in our database and question its authenticity with reason, please let us know in this thread.

If you have a release that you are unsure if it is an unauthorized release or not, please post it here with photos so the team and other members can help identifying it.

If you happen to have a bootleg and the artwork or disc is filled with mistakes, post it here so we can have a laugh.
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QUESTION:Not the 4 post

Postby Åsmund_Utvik » 17 Apr 2018 08:00

https://www.discshop.se/filmer/dvd/trac ... ort/P39226

Former post of mine was flagged as bootleg. But it might be a legal cryptkeeper rls from Uk
(discshop never ever sells bootleg. The problem bootleg dont excist in scandinavia and it is prohibited.

So should i add this again or?
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Re: The “Is this a bootleg?” Thread

Postby Samuel_Scott » 17 Apr 2018 10:56

I should just take a photo at the car boot sale I went to on Sunday. Bootleg galore and no attempt to hide it. :lol: :evil:
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Re: QUESTION:Not the 4 post

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 17 Apr 2018 11:31

Åsmund_Utvik wrote:https://www.discshop.se/filmer/dvd/traces_of_death_5_disc_box_import/P39226

Former post of mine was flagged as bootleg. But it might be a legal cryptkeeper rls from Uk
(discshop never ever sells bootleg. The problem bootleg dont excist in scandinavia and it is prohibited.

So should i add this again or?

I emailed Brain Damage films about it and I remember they stared it was unauthorized. I will try to find the email and details later.

I also suggest to continue discussion here:
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=36266&view=unread#unread
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Re: QUESTION:Not the 4 post

Postby Åsmund_Utvik » 17 Apr 2018 11:31

Traces of death 1-5
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Re: QUESTION:Not the 4 post

Postby Åsmund_Utvik » 17 Apr 2018 11:33

Distributor Crypt Keeper (uk), not same as USA braindamage rls
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Re: The “Is this a bootleg?” Thread

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 17 Apr 2018 12:30

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=33609

You previously submitted specs for a 9-disc Brain Damage release of "Traces of Death" which the company confirmed was a bootleg. I don't see anything from Crypt Keeper there.
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Re: The “Is this a bootleg?” Thread

Postby Ain_Uussaar » 17 Apr 2018 19:18

Bootleg covers from China:
Easily the best gangster flick since Goodfellas ....... Dreamcatcher
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Directors commentary by Simon West

Scream like thrills and Matrix like action ..... what else .... Jackass: The Movie AKA Dracula 2000
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Back cover is full of wonders :-D

And last but not least film so good it needs two listings for extras ...... The Core
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Chinese just love directors commentaries by Simon West for all films.
And so that cast members wont get too tired theres a second commentary with director and Natasha Henstridge
Oh and tagline is the best also :wink:
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Re: QUESTION:Not the 4 post

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 25 Apr 2018 06:04

Åsmund_Utvik wrote:https://www.discshop.se/filmer/dvd/traces_of_death_5_disc_box_import/P39226

Former post of mine was flagged as bootleg. But it might be a legal cryptkeeper rls from Uk
(discshop never ever sells bootleg. The problem bootleg dont excist in scandinavia and it is prohibited.

So should i add this again or?

I dont recall a previous thread for that title, except for the one fake Brain Damage set. Please post.
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Re: The “Is this a bootleg?” Thread

Postby Brent_Reid » 09 Jul 2018 12:29

I'd like to open discussion on Australia's Force Video, as I've known for a long time they were a 100% bootleg label in their early days, with some legit releases towards their end, in 2006. For various reasons I couldn't really bring this up before now, but here's a brief overview of their history. As you'll see, this also encompasses early Eureka's regular piracy too.

It's incredible that they've always been accepted as a legit outfit and I'm sure after so long a lot of folk will have a hard time believing otherwise. I've just added the French Freeway 1 and 2 DVDs to the comparison and flagged up that the Force disc is a pirate. Of course, ideally all offending Force DVDs would be wiped, with a note explaining why they're unlisted. If there's no realistic prospect of that, can they at least be noted as boots over time?
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Re: The “Is this a bootleg?” Thread

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 09 Jul 2018 15:26

Is it confirmed that "Freeway" was not legitimately released by Force Video Australia?
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Re: The “Is this a bootleg?” Thread

Postby Brent_Reid » 10 Jul 2018 05:43

Hi James, assuming you've read all of my original bootleg article and the link above, tell me exactly what qualifies as verification. I'm not being sarcastic; throughout their first 14 years or so, everything Force released was unlicensed. Thereafter, it was only the overwhelming majority of it. David Shepard's action against them was the exception rather than the rule. I obviously haven't checked every single title of theirs, but I have checked a hell of a lot of them and found nothing, aside from reissues of David's material, remotely resembling legit product. In addition to David, several other owners of copyrighted material, who I know personally, have confirmed they were pirated by Force and Eureka. In the case of silent and early/classic films at least, both usually released pirated product in tandem.

In the case of Freeway in particular, Force's DVD is an NTSC-PAL transfer as Republic's NTSC US DVD and simultaneously released VHS, the only versions issued at the time, was all they had access to. I confess, I haven't actually seen Force's DVD - only sleeve and disc scans - and it may not be, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was actually non-anamorphic, as per Republic's disc, or even copied from the VHS.

Like I said, this is a lot to wrap your head around, especially 20-30 years after the fact, but just because no one outside of the industry has openly discussed these events before, doesn't mean they're untrue. I'll admit: info like this is certainly not what I expected to come across when I started researching bootlegging and piracy. Look at it this way, discussion like this is actually quite groundbreaking stuff!
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Not the 4 post but something else

Postby Åsmund_Utvik » 16 Aug 2018 15:55

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Re: Not the 4 post but something else

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 16 Aug 2018 22:10

It states 1080p on a DVD, so yes, both are bootlegs
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