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Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] ADDED

Postby Matt_Bailey » 07 Jan 2021 05:32

Title: Booksmart
Country: Australia
Region: All
Releasing Studio: eOne
Case Type: Keep case
Aspect Ratio: 2.40:1
Codec: AVC
Picture: 1080p
Soundtracks: English DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
English DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0
English Dolby Digital 2.0 Audio Description
Subtitles (are they optional?): Optional English HoH
Foreign-language dialogue has forced player-generated English subs
Cuts: 102:24
Commentaries: Director's commentary by Olivia Wilde
Extras: Deleted Scenes (4:48)
"Booksmart: The Next: Best High School Comedy" featurette (17:46)
"Plies and Jazz Hands: The Dance Fantasy" featurette (2:23)
"Dressing Booksmart" featurette (2:40)
Source: Own it.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia]

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 09 Jan 2021 14:46

Matt_Bailey wrote:Foreign-language dialogue has forced player-generated English subs

This is a second subtitle track stream and not burned-in?

For the 2.0 tracks, they are stereo?
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby Matt_Bailey » 09 Jan 2021 17:53

The foreign dialogue subtitles are not burned in, correct. But there's no way to turn that track on or off in the menu (but it could presumably be done through a player's track selection settings or whatever; I've never personally felt the need).

You insisted in a previous thread that DTS 2.0 tracks are always stereo. Are you changing your stance on that?
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 10 Jan 2021 01:41

DTS 2.0 could be either stereo or mono configurations.

As for the subtitles, the subtitle key on the remote control is disabled during playback? There is no way to change subtitles during playback but only through the menus?
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby Matt_Bailey » 10 Jan 2021 04:37

James-Masaki_Ryan wrote:DTS 2.0 could be either stereo or mono configurations.
This is not true.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 10 Jan 2021 04:58

It is true. Mono tracks are frequently in 2.0. Universal, Fox Blu-rays and DVDs, often have mono tracks in 2.0 rather than 1.0.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby Matt_Bailey » 10 Jan 2021 08:59

Yes. And that same encoding method can make them surround tracks as well.

So either of two things is true:
A. It only counts if it's "flagged" in order to automatically switch the receiver into Dolby Pro Logic mode (or an equivalent), and this is only possible with Dolby Digital encoding.
B. It counts if it's matrixed 2.0, no matter how it's encoded.

It can't be A for surround and B for mono.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 10 Jan 2021 11:46

2.0 mono means that both left and right channels have identical audio. This is not the same as a 2.0 Surround track which through a Dolby Pro-Logic decoder will separate the 2.0 track to Left, Center, Right, and mono surround for a 4.0 effect.

Getting back on topic, are the 2.0 tracks stereo or mono?
And for the subtitles, are they locked out from the subtitle button during playback?
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby Matt_Bailey » 10 Jan 2021 12:17

James-Masaki_Ryan wrote:2.0 mono means that both left and right channels have identical audio. This is not the same as a 2.0 Surround track which through a Dolby Pro-Logic decoder will separate the 2.0 track to Left, Center, Right, and mono surround for a 4.0 effect.
This can be done with a DTS soundtrack just as easily as with a Dolby Digital soundtrack.

And when you play back a 2.0 mono soundtrack through Pro Logic, it all comes out the center speaker. It's matrixed using the same technique as 2.0 surround. Again, this can be done whether the audio codec is DTS, or Dolby Digital, or anything else.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 10 Jan 2021 12:36

Yes, the sound would come out of the center speaker with Pro Logic turned on. That's how I prefer to hear my mono films.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby Matt_Bailey » 10 Jan 2021 13:56

Okay, but my point is that DTS can be matrixed mono or matrixed surround, just as Dolby Digital can be. You've claimed otherwise previously.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 10 Jan 2021 23:29

I said DTS does not have a surround flag like Dolby Digital tracks can have.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby Matt_Bailey » 11 Jan 2021 15:15

Why do you think 2.0 mono and 2.0 surround are different? They're the same thing. The audio is two-channel in normal playback mode, and matrixed to other speakers when in Pro Logic mode. The only difference is which speakers it goes to.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 11 Jan 2021 15:46

2.0 mono and 2.0 surround are completely different. Mono means "single", so all dialogue, music, effects are recorded as a single audio track, with 2.0 dual mono being both audio channels having identical audio tracks. 2.0 surround is using two channels of audio and through a decoder spreading the audio to four channels.

Instead of this back and forth, are you going to give an answer about the audio and subtitles so this title could be added?
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby Matt_Bailey » 11 Jan 2021 18:02

James-Masaki_Ryan wrote:2.0 mono and 2.0 surround are completely different.
Not technologically.

In either 2.0 mono or 2.0 surround, when played back in "Straight" or "Direct" mode sound comes only from the front left and right speakers.

In either 2.0 mono or 2.0 surround, engaging Pro Logic collapses sound to the center speaker.

In only 2.0 surround, engaging Pro Logic also retains audio in the front left and right speakers, and sends audio to the rear right and left speakers.

The only difference is which speakers audio is sent to. To claim that one is possible in DTS but the other isn't, or that whether or not there's a flag is relevant to one but not the other, is silly.

Furthermore, it's rather absurd to only list 2.0 mono/2.0 surround as such if they have the flag, almost no titles have the flag. The audio is still using Pro Logic, and Pro Logic should be enabled, manually, for accurate sound reproduction. It would be much more useful for the site to inform people of this than to only list times it will happen automatically.
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 11 Jan 2021 22:37

So, are you not going to update us on the audio and subtitle specs for Booksmart Blu-ray?
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby Matt_Bailey » 12 Jan 2021 03:06

The 2.0 track is stereo, the Audio Descriptive track is matrixed surround.

The menu contains only two subtitle options: SDH/HoH English subs, and no subs. However, there's a brief snippet of foreign-language dialogue during the film, and the subtitles for that are another subtitle track rather than being burned in. It's a "forced" subtitle track. There's no way to disable it through the menu, but it can be disabled via the subtitle button on the remote (if, for example, you spoke that language as well as English and therefore didn't need it).
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Re: Booksmart [eOne] [Australia] FAO Matt

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 12 Jan 2021 05:04

If the subtitles can be changed via remote that would be considered "optional" so we've labeled it as optional.
Added it, thank you!
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