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Postby David_Hughes » 06 Jun 2020 14:24

Title: Bell from Hell (The) AKA La Campana del infierno AKA The Bell of Hell AKA La Cloche de l'enfer AKA The Bells (1973)
Country: Spain
Regions: 1-6
Releasing Studio: None.
Case Type: Keepcase
Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1
Anamorphic?: Yes
PAL or NTSC?: PAL
Soundtracks: English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono; Spanish Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono; German Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono
Subtitles (are they optional?): No subtitles
Cuts: Running time of 93.14. Scenes cut from Pathfinder release are all included from 47:48s - 50mins. Nudity/seduction scene intact at 1hr 1sec. Motorbike sound over final scene of fog/singing. No 'The End' title included, cuts to black. Notably does not include approx 11 seconds of studio/distributor titles at beginning as per Pathfinder release, but has same title frame 'The Bells'.
Commentaries: No.
Extras: None.
Notes: Slight black border around frame; slightly tight to edges but nothing overly cropped as with some of opening titles on Pathfinder release. Quality consistent with no VHS inserts throughout, better image than Pathfinder which appears zoomed in by comparison. If the End title was included, and the opening distributor titles added, the running time would be approx 10 or 11 seconds longer, similar to the Austrian release. Box incorrectly states 105 mins approx. All of English audio is english with no spanish sections nor subtitling.
Easter Eggs: No.
Amazon ASIN (UK, French, German, USA releases only): B07HHJ48W2
Source:* I own it.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 15 Jun 2020 14:03

David_Hughes wrote:Releasing Studio: No marking. Ref:TS234.

"No Marking" is the name of the company?
David_Hughes wrote:Extras: Scene selection

"Scene Selection" is not an extra.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David

Postby David_Hughes » 21 Jun 2020 10:12

Thanks. Have edited submission.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 21 Jun 2020 10:34

Releasing Studio: None.

What is the company's name? There must be a licensed company logo or something.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David

Postby David_Hughes » 22 Jun 2020 17:57

There are no indications or markings i can find. It has a barcode thats it. Purchased via Amazon.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David

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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 22 Jun 2020 23:04

Seems like a boot.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David BOOTLEG

Postby Brent_Reid » 23 Jun 2020 23:59

Gotta be a boot, though I've drawn a blank on the company that issued it. But I did find that the director, Claudio Guerín Hill, died just before the end of filming when he fell from the belltower.

David: Many – maybe half – of all Spanish and Italian classic film releases are boots. See the discussion in this thread.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David

Postby David_Hughes » 24 Jun 2020 16:26

James-Masaki_Ryan wrote:Seems like a boot.

Ok. Yes it looks it without company ID's. Pity. As the quality and screen format is better than that USA release special edition.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David BOOTLEG

Postby Rick_Curzon » 28 Jun 2020 10:03

Have we not decided about listing bootlegs? I favour listing them to ensure users are aware and can be informed yea or nea as to purchase.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David BOOTLEG

Postby Eric_Cotenas » 28 Jun 2020 10:56

Brent_Reid wrote:Gotta be a boot, though I've drawn a blank on the company that issued it. But I did find that the director, Claudio Guerín Hill, died just before the end of filming when he fell from the belltower.

David: Many – maybe half – of all Spanish and Italian classic film releases are boots. See the discussion in this thread.


Juan Antonio Bardem finished the film. The film’s international rights are with Artedis in France (not sure about domestic Spanish) by way of its French co-producer Les Films de Boetie. The Spanish dvd might be a boot of the German or at least patches up the French master in the same manner.

Hill’s earlier film is thus far only out in Germany, Italy, and Spain (a legit release since Mercury owns the Spanish rights). The only English-language release was a Greek VHS.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd FAO David BOOTLEG

Postby Brent_Reid » 28 Jun 2020 20:51

I vehemently disagree that this site (or any other) should be listing boots. The only policy change I'd like to see would be supplying a basic list of labels known to have bootlegged individual titles at the foot of their comparison page.

Cheers for the very informative post, Eric.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd BOOTLEG

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 30 Jun 2020 13:51

I've hidden the listing. Rick, remove the bootleg from the site, please.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd BOOTLEG

Postby Rick_Curzon » 30 Jun 2020 14:00

Done. Why do we not include these as a way to keep users informed? They are out there on official sites like UK and Spanish Amazon and we are missing so many official releases, how are users supposed to know what is official and missing and what is a boot and missing?
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd BOOTLEG

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 30 Jun 2020 14:06

Rick_Curzon wrote:Done. Why do we not include these as a way to keep users informed? They are out there on official sites like UK and Spanish Amazon and we are missing so many official releases, how are users supposed to know what is official and missing and what is a boot and missing?

You could then argue "Why not add this one, to inform users that it is fake?"
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd BOOTLEG

Postby Rick_Curzon » 30 Jun 2020 14:22

I would limit it to stuff available on Amazon which has a proper listing. Spanish discs especially because they look so professional and seem to be sold on all Amazons.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd BOOTLEG

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 30 Jun 2020 14:26

I've posted elsewhere, but we should refrain from posting fakes unless we implement some system for them, or at the very least just mentioning in the notes that [___] is a bootleg release.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd BOOTLEG

Postby Rick_Curzon » 30 Jun 2020 14:41

Agreed. How about listing in the edition line BOOTLEG?
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd BOOTLEG

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 30 Jun 2020 14:59

Rick, you can suggested in the admin area.
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Re: BELL OF HELL Dvd BOOTLEG

Postby Ulrich_Christensen » 30 Jun 2020 17:15

There is currently a hard stance policy in place that we do not knowingly add bootlegs to the database.

Any bootlegs discovered to already be in the database will be removed/hidden from view, as status is determined.
Due to time constraints of our editors, we cannot process bulk reports, so any report of a bootleg needs to be specific, unless an editor has accepted to do the work of checking.

Releases currently listed that are questionable, but deemed "of value to list", might still be view-able, but may in future require the user to click a checkbox.
Specifics undecided.
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