The Other Side of the Underneath (1972) Blu-ray + DVD ADDED

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The Other Side of the Underneath (1972) Blu-ray + DVD ADDED

Postby Darrel_Griffin » 12 Feb 2024 11:18

The Other Side of the Underneath (1972) Blu-ray + DVD

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Severin Films Blu-ray


Title: The Other Side of the Underneath
Country: America
Region: ALL (confirmed by me)
Releasing Studio: Severin Films
Case Type: Keep Case within Special Case (box set)
Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1 (both versions)
Codec: AVC MPEG-4 (both versions)
Picture: 1080p24 (both versions)
Soundtracks:

Theatrical Version: English DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 Mono
Workprint Version: English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono

Subtitles:

Theatrical Version: English HoH (optional)
Workprint Version: None

Cuts: No cuts - Includes both the Theatrical Version (110:52) and Workprint Version (129:38).

Commentaries: None
Extras:

*The Film – Theatrical Version (110:52)
*The Film – Workprint Version (129:38)
2022 introduction by Kier-La Janisse, author of "House of Psychotic Women" (9:03) (1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo (but almost Mono, as everything is panned centrally, except for a bit of noise))
2008 interview with actress Sheila Allen (28:35) (upscaled SD, 1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
2007 interview with actress Natasha Morgan (9:48) (upscaled SD, 1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
Extended Sequences (33:59) (1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
"Penny Slinger: Live at the Miskatonic Institute of Horror Studies" 2019 Q&A (134:19) (1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo)
"Penny Slinger: Out of the Shadows" 2017 Documentary Trailer (1:25) (1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo)

Notes:

Theatrical Version is from a 2K scan using original 16mm negative and CRI (Colour Reversal Intermediate) negative elements, with additional restoration.
Workprint Version uses the restored shots where possible, with additional shots from a 2K scan of an inferior workprint with no restoration.
Interviews are upscaled SD. All other extras are HD.
All extras are in English with no subtitles.

Easter Eggs: none known
Amazon ASIN: B0B8T9CV24
Sources:

I own:
BFI Blu-ray + DVD [2012 release]
Severin Films [2022 Release]


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BFI Blu-ray + DVD

Details below are for the 2012 dual format Blu-ray + DVD release, but can also be used to make additions/corrections for the 2009 Blu-ray only release (ASIN: B0027FFSSA) and DVD only release (ASIN: B0027FFSSK).

Note that the 2012 booklet must be different to the 2009 booklet, since it includes a reference to the year 2011. I don't know the full details of the differences.
Personally, I always base the number of pages in a booklet on the total number of sides, including the front and back covers.
This means that the number of pages must be a multiple of 2, and usually a multiple of 4 (especially if it consists of sheets of paper comprising 4 pages each, stapled together at the crease).
Using this method of counting, a booklet cannot have 37 pages. However, the 2009 booklet might have 37 numbered pages, depending on how the pages are numbered, plus it might have one or more blank pages.


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DISC ONE Blu-ray:

Title: The Other Side of the Underneath
Country: United Kingdom
Region: ALL (confirmed by me)
Releasing Studio: British Film Institute [2012 release]
Case Type: Keep Case
Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1 (both versions)
Codec: AVC MPEG-4 (both versions)
Picture: 1080p24 (both versions)
Soundtracks: English LPCM 1.0 (48kHz/24bit) (both versions) (NOTE: 24bit stated on back of case but not confirmed by me)
Subtitles: English HoH (optional) (both versions)
Cuts: No cuts - Includes both the Theatrical Version (110:52) and Workprint Version (129:30).
Commentaries: none
Extras:

*The Film - Theatrical Version (110:52)
*The Film - Workprint Version (129:30)
Introduction for the Workprint Version (0:30) (NOTE: this is just two pages of text regarding the Workprint Version, which plays for 0:30 before the start of the Workprint Version. So, not really an extra as such, although it does not appear on the Severin Blu-ray release)
Extended Sequences:
- "Graveyard Projections" (5:03) (1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
- "Group Session" (13:08) (1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
- "Underneath Me Nightie" (6:54) (1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
- "The Thing About Mothers and Fathers"/"Freak Out" (8:53) (1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
2008 interview with actress Sheila Allen (28:35) (upscaled SD, 1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English LPCM 1.0 (48kHz))
2007 interview with actress Natasha Morgan (9:49) (upscaled SD, 1080p24 AVC MPEG-4, English LPCM 1.0 (48kHz))
Bonus Trailer: "Anti-Clock" (3:03) (AVC MPEG-4 1080p24, English Dolby Digital 2.0 mono)

Notes:

Theatrical Version is from a 2K scan using original 16mm negative and CRI (Colour Reversal Intermediate) negative elements, with additional restoration.
Workprint Version is presented using seamless branching, using the restored shots where possible, with additional shots from a 2K scan of an inferior workprint with no restoration.
Includes 32 page fully illustrated liner notes booklet with contributions by Amy Simmons, Penny Slinger, Sophie Mayer, Jane Arden, Susan Croft, Michael Brooke, David Will.
Interviews are upscaled SD, in English with no subtitles. All other extras are HD, in English with optional English HoH subtitles.

Easter Eggs: none known
Amazon ASIN: B008DFRR50
Sources:

I own:
BFI Blu-ray + DVD [2012 release]
Severin Films [2022 Release]


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DISC TWO DVD:

Title: The Other Side of the Underneath
Country: United Kingdom
Region: 0 (for 2012 release, but not confirmed by me - 2009 DVD only release is probably also region 0 but may be region 2 locked - see sources below)
Releasing Studio: British Film Institute [2012 release]
Case Type: Keep Case
Aspect Ratio: 1.30:1
Anamorphic?: No
PAL or NTSC?: PAL
Soundtracks: English LPCM 2.0 Mono (48kHz/16bit)
Subtitles: English HoH (optional)
Cuts: No cuts - Theatrical Version (106:27)
Commentaries: none
Extras:

Extended Sequences:
- "Graveyard Projections" (5:09)
- "Group Session" (13:08)
- "Underneath Me Nightie" (6:54)
- "The Thing About Mothers and Fathers"/"Freak Out" (8:53)
2008 interview with actress Sheila Allen (27:31)
2007 interview with actress Natasha Morgan (9:24)
Bonus Trailer: "Anti-Clock" (2:55)

Notes:

Theatrical Version is from a 2K scan using original 16mm negative and CRI (Colour Reversal Intermediate) negative elements, with additional restoration.
Includes 32 page fully illustrated liner notes booklet with contributions by Amy Simmons, Penny Slinger, Sophie Mayer, Jane Arden, Susan Croft, Michael Brooke, David Will.
Interviews are in English with no subtitles. All other extras are in English with optional English HoH subtitles.
Extended Sequences extras are NTSC -> PAL conversions.

Easter Eggs: none known
Amazon ASIN: B008DFRR50
Sources:

I own:
BFI Blu-ray + DVD [2012 release]
Severin Films [2022 Release]


DVD region coding:

2012 Blu-ray + DVD: probably region 0:
https://shop.bfi.org.uk/the-other-side- ... ition.html

2009 DVD only: probably region 0, but possibly region 2 locked:
BFI website states region 2:
https://www2.bfi.org.uk/blu-rays-dvds/o ... underneath
but some other sources (e.g. listings on ebay) state that it is region 0, and a posting on Criterion website also states it is region 0:
https://www.criterionforum.org/forum/vi ... php?t=9312
"The Other Side of the Underneath: UK / 1972 / colour / cert 18 / English language with hard-of-hearing subtitles / 106 minutes / Ratio 1.33:1 / Region 0
DVD Cat no: BFIVD829 / Blu-ray cat no: BFIB1011"


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Blu-ray OVERALL:

Severin has extensive exclusive extras, but the Workprint Version has lossy audio and no subtitles, the Extended Sequences have no subtitles, and the interviews have lossy audio.

BFI has the Workprint Version with uncompressed audio and subtitles, Extended Sequences with subtitles, interviews with uncompressed audio, and a minor exclusive extra (Anti-Clock trailer, but note this is also available on the BFI Blu-rays of Anti-Clock and Separation).


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Additional Notes regarding the Blu-rays:

Workprint Version:
BFI runtime is 8 seconds shorter than Severin, but BFI uses non-drop-frame timecode whereas Severin uses drop-frame. 129:30 non-drop-frame is equivalent to about 129:38 drop-frame.

Theatrical Version:
BFI runtime is about the same as Severin, but BFI uses non-drop-frame timecode whereas Severin uses drop-frame. 110:52 non-drop-frame is equivalent to about 110:59 drop-frame. This would suggest that Severin is missing about 7 seconds in total. However, it does not appear that any shots are missing or significantly shorter. I have checked various points throughout the movie, noting the timecodes for the same frame of picture in each release, and the timecodes only drift very gradually, with Severin ending up only 8 frames higher by the end of the movie, not the expected 7 seconds. Perhaps Severin blends or skips occasional frames, but so far I have not spotted any such instances.
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Re: The Other Side of the Underneath (1972) Blu-ray + DVD

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 14 Feb 2024 13:17

Added and updated.
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Re: The Other Side of the Underneath (1972) Blu-ray + DVD AD

Postby Darrel_Griffin » 14 Feb 2024 13:52

Thanks.

A few small things:

1. "Penny Slinger: Live at the Miskatonic Institute of Horror Studies" is from 2019, not 2022 - it has the exact recording date in the opening credits of the item itself.

2. The years of recording of the interviews have not yet been corrected for the Severin box set release (2008 and 2007, not 2009) - the recording dates are in the end credits of each item.

3. The Notes section for the Severin individual release can be copied to the Severin box set release, but note also that the Severin box set is now available on Amazon (ASIN: B0B8T9CV24).
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Re: The Other Side of the Underneath (1972) Blu-ray + DVD AD

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 14 Feb 2024 23:44

Fixed and updated.
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Re: The Other Side of the Underneath (1972) Blu-ray + DVD AD

Postby Darrel_Griffin » 19 Feb 2024 16:39

The Notes section has not been copied from the Severin single disc release to the Severin box set. Is there a reason for this? I do realise it would be duplication, but the details do apply to both releases, as the discs contents are identical.
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Re: The Other Side of the Underneath (1972) Blu-ray + DVD AD

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 20 Feb 2024 07:17

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